karen2  10,11Doug had a thing to do with his son tonight

ellen  4,0ok
ellen  4,0i still have wayner, ill be ok
karen2  10,11I want to mention again the autoresponder, I have
   10,11had several different enquiries this week about it and it's
   10,11functions
JonA  6,0(Allen) Hey buddy....
AllenRiley Hey Jon
wayner you bet
karen2  10,11The autoresponder at postmaster is for follow up
   10,11of free members and VIPs only
ellen  4,0is canada crazy too because of this wayner?
karen2  10,11It is for no other use. I have to be very careful to
   10,11make sure that we do not get accused of spamming with it and it
   10,11holds our whole team, If anyone was to try to use it for general
   10,11mailings or recruiting it could lose it for the whole team
wayner Yeah, we are
Les has entered the room (hostname: XXXXX.sk.sympatico.ca)
Karen Hi Les
AllenRiley Hi Les
karen2  10,11I have also had a VIP trying to figure out his own
   10,11way of using the autoresponder, Hi Les
wayner Hi Les
Guest2 Hi Les
ellen  4,0wasnt sure havent heard any news except here in usa,
   4,0didnt know, was curious
ellen  4,0hi les
karen2  10,11Again, I hold the rules on it because I am paying
   10,11for it for the whole team
Les Hi there
AllenRiley Is that Les Auger?
karen2  10,11It's use is limited to the way I have instructed VIPs
   10,11to use it
wayner We are all pretty upset over this tragedy
Les you bet
ellen  4,0have they shut down airports there?
karen2  10,11We are all very devastated it has been very hard to
   10,11keep going the past 2 days and I am having a time trying to work
   10,11out my 30 day notice at work
wayner absolutely
ellen  4,0wow
wayner I wonder where my new vip is tonight?
ellen  4,0they hear tapping under the rubble
karen2  10,11Please keep in mind there is no need to use the
   10,11team autoresponder until you have free members or VIPs to put
   10,11in to be followed up with
wayner this is a good thing! I hope they find many survivors
ellen  4,0i hope so too. that would be so nice
karen2  10,11I also want to mention that the leads are finally
   10,11coming in from the co-op from a month ago as many of you are
   10,11aware
AllenRiley Wayner, did you say you are from Canada?
wayner yes
AllenRiley My VIP, Les, is here and he is also from Canada
wayner Cool!!!
karen2  10,11I want to re mention that our team has gained
   10,11about 40 VIPs since we started using the Team Autoresponder
ellen  4,0two canadians, eh?
AllenRiley That's excellent Karen
ellen  4,0just kidding
karen2  10,11Linda has just started trying to get her members
   10,11in
wayner That was a good decision Karen.
Guest2 That's really great,
karen2  10,11Thanks Wayne and thanks Linda
wayner yeah eh
ellen  4,0u r silly wayner
Brenda I'm still trying to get my first free member. Will it ever
   happen??????
wayner i know
Karen Oh Yes.
wayner Yes it will Brenda
karen2  10,11I would really I think beyond what I have just
   10,11mention ask if there are any subjects that you guys would like to
   10,11talk about to night, Brenda that is a good subject, Lets talk about
   10,11what you are and are not doing
Guest161 me to, me to
AllenRiley It will happen if you listen to Karen Currie, Brenda
karen2  10,11Thanks Allen
Karen It took me two weeks of working the mailings and I got my
   first one the Ebiz Inst. method.
ellen  4,0espereta, i would like to work with u if thast is ok
JonA  6,0True true, what are your daily activities Brenda?
karen2  10,11So Brenda what are you doing at this point as far
   10,11as advertising lets figure out why you have not had success yet
Guest2 With my three days all I do is try to figure out my system,
   but anyway I ran that virus scan
Brenda I had so many problems getting the Aureate set up.
   Finally had to go to technical support at Aureate
wayner Quit (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection
   broken))
karen2  10,11But you have it set up now what else are you
   10,11doing for advertising?
Brenda I just ran the I saw your ad and am getting responses
   tonight from that.
Guest161 thanks ellen, need all the help I can get
JonA  6,0(On an off note, I'm wish Aureate wasn't so widely
   6,0used.  There is an easier and better program out there...)
karen2  10,11Okay have you done any other mailings yet?
Brenda Tomorrow we will do the SRW"s
ellen  4,0iill be here, hard to get ed lately
karen2  10,11Jon we will discuss that shortly
Brenda Yes, but it didn't work very well
JonA
karen2  10,11Okay Brenda, First you need to be using the team
   10,11free software ad
karen2  10,11You need to be mailing to all the free safe lists
   10,11listed at the vip site here
wayner has entered the room (hostname: XXXXX.bctel.ca)
karen2  10,11You also need to consider one paid program to
   10,11mail to
Brenda Do you mean the 4 ads that are in the lessons?
Karen welcome back
karen2  10,11No, I have another ad I can send you
Guest161 ok ellen, that cool I'm hard to reach sometime as I
   work thru the daytime.
karen2  10,11But you must sign up for all of the safe lists first
wayner thanks Karen, lost my connection
Brenda Please do.
ellen  4,0just let me know, ill make arrangemebnts
AllenRiley Re-hi Wayner
karen2  10,11But you sign up for the safe lists first. They are all
   10,11listed here at the VIP meeting site, You can too Esperita
Brenda I have gotten so far removed from that topic I am not sure
   where to go for the safe lists anymore.
karen2  10,11Again I want you to know the quickest way to bring
   10,11in members
Brenda OK
karen2  10,11They are listed here on the VIP meeting site
karen2  10,11You sign up for them and then let me know
Brenda Will do
wayner Brenda, don't give up, stay focused and you will be
   successful
karen2  10,11Again there is one main thing that brings in
   10,11members Does anyone want to say what that thing is?
Guest2 That's what I need and all my vips, the quickest way to
   bring in members. WEhat's the secret
JonA  6,0paid lists
Guest161 Karen please e-mail me your ad to
karen2  10,11You got it Jon
JonA  6,0perseverence
JonA  6,0dedication
JonA  6,0commitment
JonA  6,0man, that's 4 things
karen2  10,11Anyone needing the ad email me at the end of the
   10,11meeting
ellen  4,0duplication
ellen  4,0thats one more
karen2  10,11Yes Jon very good Yes Ellen Very good
ellen  4,0heheh
Karen And duplication of what is proven to work.
JonA  6,0not exact duplication though
Brenda Well I know I have the perseverence
karen2  10,11Now what do I do, and Ellen how many members
   10,11am I bringing a week?
Brenda And commitment
karen2  10,11Yes and commitment
ellen  4,0no, not exact, but good idea to fiddle with ideas that
   4,0already work
karen2  10,11Ellen how many members would you estimate a
   10,11week I bring in?
ellen  4,0 300 +
karen2  10,11Very close
ellen  4,0maybe more
JonA  6,0I mail to 4 lists and I've added about 350-400 this
   6,0week to my downline
karen2  10,11How do I do that?
Brenda Gosh I am in AWE
karen2  10,11I have a specific number of paid lists that I mail to,
   10,11I have a notebook that I keep that I put down when and what ad
   10,11we sent to each list
Les  1,0Karen in traffic wave can I use all those email address
karen2  10,11Each night we mail to the lists that are due to be
   10,11mailed to that night
ellen  4,0its caLLED ORGANIZATION
karen2  10,11Yes Les you can
karen2  10,11Yes it is Ellen
karen2  10,11I use about 6 to 7 sites regularly
wayner organization is the biggest key
karen2  10,11I never fail and I never stop mailing and the key
   10,11word is "mailing" to those lists
Brenda Where does one go to get the paid list and how much do
   they cost approximately?
karen2  10,11I recommend you start with one list and then add
   10,11on, I can tell you more about them after the meeting because
   10,11many already know which ones I use regularly the people
   10,11bringing in the most members are using those same lists
karen2  10,11The main one I use is about \$15 a month
Brenda I think we can handle that
karen2  10,11The point is that you have to mail regularly and
   10,11you have to do it on a consitant and dedicated basis or the best
   10,11list will not work
Brenda If you are all using the same lists, how does that work?
Guest2 I'm just getting one member a day, so really need those
   safe lists
ellen  4,0different advertising
karen2  10,11Now grant you you may not get as many
   10,11members as I do, because I have several sources, and my
   10,11sources all total I spend about 150 per month
karen2  10,11But the point is you have to start somewhere,
ellen  4,0same stuff u just got to makle it jump out
karen2  10,11The free safelist have actually brought us in some
   10,11members as well
karen2  10,11Good Point Ellen How do we make it jump out?
AllenRiley Which are the best "Free" safe lists Karen?
ellen  4,0by making it so it doesnt look like any ome elses stuff
karen2  10,11The world list if you can keep your email address
   10,11validated
karen2  10,11Thank you Ellen
wayner I have tried some one word subjects and have had
   response
ellen  4,0if i would delete it myself, then iu dont use ity to
   4,0advertise
karen2  10,11Want to give us an example?
AllenRiley What do you mean by validated?
ellen  4,0make 5000 in the next month!
wayner example......  imagine...
karen2  10,11I mean that this week everytime we tried to mail to
   10,11them they said our emails had bounced and we had to revalidate
   10,11our email address which is a pain if you are doing as much
   10,11advertising as we are
ellen  4,0thats crap, iwould not even open it
karen2  10,11Which one is Imagine?
wayner an ad that I wrote
karen2  10,11Let me give you an idea I tossed at someone this
   10,11past 2 weeks and they didn't think it was good, but my point was
   10,11that if they opened the email then it was Great
AllenRiley Karen, what is your average response per 1000
   emails sent?
ellen  4,0i was tal;king about the exzample i used as being
   4,0crtap, wayner, not yours
Guest2 I have so much undelivered email, most are
   autoresponder that they probably don't see it.  You have any other
   suggestion?
wayner i know
karen2  10,11Allen it is hard to tell you I would say about 25 -30
   10,11per 1,000
karen2  10,11I mail to about 100,000 per week
AllenRiley That is better than mine
ellen  4,0ok, makingf sure, typing one handed, baby sleepin
JonA  6,0set up filters to delete the bounced mail
karen2  10,11Now let me give you an example of what I thought
   10,11a good subject was
Brenda How do you do that?
wayner I thought you were typing with your nose ellen
AllenRiley 20-25% of my mail is undeliverable
karen2  10,11" Okay You WIN I QUIT!!!!!
wayner he he he
ellen  4,0my ear, heheheh
JonA  6,0(Brenda) It depends on which email program you use
JonA  6,0(Karen) Tell us!!
karen2  10,11I did
JonA
AllenRiley I saw it that's great, Karen.  It's provocative
JonA  6,0gotcha
karen2  10,11Okay YOU WIN I QUIT
ellen  4,0shes using an example she used on me and one of
   4,0my vips
karen2  10,11Exactly
karen2  10,11Will they open it?
ellen  4,0i did
karen2  10,11Probably
karen2  10,11Exactly I tested on Ellen
karen2  10,11The idea is not what is in your ad so much as
   10,11how you get them to open it
AllenRiley Do you always send mail with your own name?   Do
   you use an alias or pseudonym of some kind?
wayner it definately makes one curious
karen2  10,11With the Free Software Ad I use several different
   10,11subjects, that way they don't just pass me up
karen2  10,11Believe it or not Allen just recently I have found
   10,11that our sign up rates have gone up with me putting our names in
   10,11the names slot
karen2  10,11I used to use other things there like Look or You
   10,11won't believe this
AllenRiley How do you mail several different subjects in a single
   run?
AllenRiley Or can you?
karen2  10,11But the sign ups would indicate that they like to
   10,11know who you are
AllenRiley I use my own name also
karen2  10,11Yes you can using the aureate you can put from
   10,11anything or anyone you like
AllenRiley I've tried fake names and response rate goes way
   down
karen2  10,11Try using Look! or something like that to see if it
   10,11helps
Les  1,0what is an aurate
karen2  10,11I agree Allen I really do
Les  1,0mailer
karen2  10,11The aureate group mailer
ellen  4,0how abot "NOT ME!!!!"
karen2  10,11Jon says he knows of something easier and
   10,11better, Good idea Ellen
Brenda What is it?
karen2  10,11Or you can always use the good old stand by and
   10,11that is :Question?"
karen2  10,11The idea is to get them to open the ad
karen2  10,11And sometimes you need to experiment
wayner exactly
AllenRiley Karen, I suppose my question is can we automate the
   Aureate Group Mailer to change subjects while it is in sending
   operational mode?
karen2  10,11Jon would you share with us about the other
   10,11mailer, I don't think so Allen
JonA  6,0Here is one I just got.....  "I tried to reach you
JonA  6,0the other mailer is completely customizable
karen2  10,11Oh I like that Jon
AllenRiley Me too Jon
JonA  6,0you can use the lists directly from the DHSC VIP info
   6,0pages
JonA  6,0grab your downline and then mail to it...
JonA  6,0or for FFA Mailings
JonA  6,0it's pretty fast.....
ellen  4,0\
karen2  10,11Okay in what other ways is it customizable
karen2  10,11What is it?
JonA  6,0unlimited customization fields
karen2  10,11That sounds good
JonA  6,0unlike Aureate
AllenRiley THat sounds excellent
karen2  10,11True
JonA  6,0ID# would be ID#
JonA  6,0sponsor email would be sponsor email
karen2  10,11I like that
wayner I use express mail server
JonA  6,0if you get what I mean....
karen2  10,11Yes Jon I do, I am interested what mailer is it
JonA  6,0instead of city being ID# or whatever....
JonA  6,0just a sec...
AllenRiley Jon, that sounds extremely good
JonA  6,0grabbing url....
karen2  10,11Yes it does
JonA  6,0http://AutoSubmitPRO.com/pl/pl.cgi?wm
karen2  10,11Les you need some type of mailer if you are going
   10,11to really get this going so you might want to check this one out
   10,11since you do not have the aureate yet
JonA  6,0I've been using this one for 5 years now
karen2  10,11Okay I am going to check it out, Is it expensive?
JonA  6,0think it's about the same as Aureate
JonA  6,0bought it 5 years ago so...
karen2  10,11That sounds good does it have direct send
   10,11functions?
wayner If anyone needs a fully functional mailer I have 2 with
   unlock generators
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Les  1,0ya ok thank karen & jon
ellen  4,0check this out  gracelynngatrell.50megs.com
ellen  4,0not done yet
karen2  10,11What kind do you have Wayne?
Brenda Wayner, what does unlock generators mean?
karen2  10,11I thought that was my surprise Ellen
wayner Express Mail Server and
wayner Stealth Mass Mailer
karen2  10,11I have both of those, I am afraid of Stealth
   10,11because Doug had a major problem with his ISP over them
   10,11looping
JonA  6,0does EMS allow for personalization and
   6,0customization?
wayner Brenda, It means that you can register your own mailer
ellen  4,0it still is u will see finished
karen2  10,11I have tried the Express mail server but don't know
   10,11that it was any better
Brenda Thanks
karen2  10,11Okay Ellen hon
karen2  10,11Okay let's recap how do you get members, ONE
   10,11WORD ANSWER
wayner I also use EMS
wayner I found that Stealth was hard to use
JonA  6,0LISTS
karen2  10,11Nope
AllenRiley Stealth will also get you in trouble
wayner Jon I believe it does
JonA  6,0Mailings
Brenda perserverence
karen2  10,11One Word Answer How Do You Get Members
karen2  10,11Yes Jon, EMail
JonA  6,0:-)
karen2  10,11Email, Email,Email,Email
karen2  10,11repeat and duplicate Email, Email,
karen2  10,11Email,Email
karen2  10,11Am I getting through to anyone?
wayner Allen, explain
Brenda I think so!!!!
Guest161 gotcha
karen2  10,11Good Brenda I am glad
wayner Are you talking about masking your ID?
karen2  10,11That is the whole point, The more you email the
   10,11more members you get, Now how do you email safely
Brenda Use the safe list
AllenRiley Because of the fake headers in Stealth Mail, a lot of
   old internet anti-spammers get their dander up when they see it
   and send complaints.  That's one way
JonA  6,0either mailing to a FFA list that you purchased or using
   6,0the name and ID and URL of the site you extracted from
karen2  10,11Yes, use as many safe lists as you can find
   10,11Exactly
karen2  10,11Bingo Brenda gets the prize for tonight
karen2  10,11Ask me about your prize later okay Brenda?
Brenda Guess I am learning a few things.
karen2  10,11Yes you are
Brenda OK
wayner OK, gotcha
karen2  10,11So we are going to join as many safe lists as we
   10,11can Paid and free right?
Guest2 Thanks for the input I learned something tonight
Brenda Yes
karen2  10,11We are going to send them the ad that works the
   10,11best that I know of and that is my freesoftware ad
Guest161 10-4
karen2  10,11And we are going to make sure we write down
   10,11and keep up with which lists we are mailing to so we do not miss
   10,11not the smallest opportunity
Edward yes mom
karen2  10,11Hi Ed
karen2  10,11Nice to have you
Edward howdeeeeeeeeee
ellen  4,0hi ed
Edward thanks
wayner Hi ED
Edward hi all
karen2  10,11Now I have also found another way to advertise
   10,11for free, Do you want to tell them about it Ed?
Guest2 Hello Ed
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   broken))
JonA  6,0I wanna hear!!!
JonA  6,0oooohhhhh
Edward youcan tell about it better than I
karen2  10,11Ed is the only one on our team to be doing it right
   10,11now besides me
JonA roar
karen2  10,11Okay well Allen kind of knows too
karen2  10,11I found a really neat site and I have not even went
   10,11past the first step yet
AllenRiley Hi Ed
Edward hi
karen2  10,11But the first step is 8 different sites like starblaze
   10,11and hits2u Do you all know what kinds of sites those are?
JonA  6,0yep
JonA  6,0I've got a nice list....
karen2  10,11How about everyone else?
AllenRiley Karen, I am using the ad and it is working.  I need to
   be sending more emails
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karen2  10,11Allen did you sign up for those 8 sites yet?
ellen  4,0ezines rght?
karen2  10,11Okay for anyone who does not know these
   10,11programs are programs that you put into your browser and for
   10,11every time you open your browser and view two of theirs you get
   10,11someone viewing one of yours
karen2  10,11The problem is how do you put 8 sites into your
   10,11browser
AllenRiley Karen, I haven't signed up yet.  I will though.
   Swamped..no time
JonA  6,0I've got a solution for 5 sites, but not 8....  I'm all ears
karen2  10,11I understand Allen, Guess what I have a simple
   10,11html program that lets you put it into a website any website
   10,11including your pointer page and it rotates between the 8 sites
marilyn Quit (Web Browser left the chat web page)
karen2  10,11So everytime you open your browser you are
   10,11going between 8 programs that are getting you hits for FREE
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JonA  6,0how about a program that you enter 5 URLs into and it
   6,0opens 5 small windows and refreshes them every 30-40
   6,0seconds??
karen2  10,11It is a very simple program but what I want to do is
   10,11let the team Captains and above sign up first and then let their
   10,11VIPs and leaders sign up under them because it will give all of
   10,11us better exposure
karen2  10,11That would be good too Jon
JonA  6,0yep
karen2  10,11This particular program goes much deeper than I
   10,11have mentioned I am just now getting past the first step of it
JonA  6,0gotcha
JonA  6,0listening....
Karen flush
Karen Bathroom break.
wayner Man that's DEEP
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AllenRiley ha ha
wayner LOL
karen2  10,11Oh Lord have mercy
AllenRiley Re-hi Les
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Guest161 I'm so glad you shared that with us
wayner mercy me
karen2  10,11That is what I get for having a husband next to me
Les the power went out
karen2  10,11hahahahahaaa
karen2  10,11Okay so are there any specific questions for
   10,11tonight?
AllenRiley Where do we get the html program?
ellen  4,0i was tal;king about the exzample i used as being
   4,0crtap, wayner, not yours
Guest2 I have so much undelivered email, most are
   autoresponder that they probably don't see it.  You have any other
   suggestion?
wayner i know
karen2  10,11Allen it is hard to tell you I would say about 25 -30
   10,11per 1,000
karen2  10,11I mail to about 100,000 per week
AllenRiley That is better than mine
ellen  4,0ok, makingf sure, typing one handed, baby sleepin
JonA  6,0set up filters to delete the bounced mail
karen2  10,11Now let me give you an example of what I thought
   10,11a good subject was
Brenda How do you do that?
wayner I thought you were typing with your nose ellen
AllenRiley 20-25% of my mail is undeliverable
karen2  10,11" Okay You WIN I QUIT!!!!!
wayner he he he
ellen  4,0my ear, heheheh
JonA  6,0(Brenda) It depends on which email program you use
JonA  6,0(Karen) Tell us!!
karen2  10,11I did
JonA
AllenRiley I saw it that's great, Karen.  It's provocative
JonA  6,0gotcha
karen2  10,11Okay YOU WIN I QUIT
ellen  4,0shes using an example she used on me and one of
   4,0my vips
karen2  10,11Exactly
karen2  10,11Will they open it?
ellen  4,0i did
karen2  10,11Probably
karen2  10,11Exactly I tested on Ellen
karen2  10,11The idea is not what is in your ad so much as
   10,11how you get them to open it
AllenRiley Do you always send mail with your own name?   Do
   you use an alias or pseudonym of some kind?
wayner it definately makes one curious
karen2  10,11With the Free Software Ad I use several different
   10,11subjects, that way they don't just pass me up
karen2  10,11Believe it or not Allen just recently I have found
   10,11that our sign up rates have gone up with me putting our names in
   10,11the names slot
karen2  10,11I used to use other things there like Look or You
   10,11won't believe this
AllenRiley How do you mail several different subjects in a single
   run?
AllenRiley Or can you?
karen2  10,11But the sign ups would indicate that they like to
   10,11know who you are
AllenRiley I use my own name also
karen2  10,11Yes you can using the aureate you can put from
   10,11anything or anyone you like
AllenRiley I've tried fake names and response rate goes way
   down
karen2  10,11Try using Look! or something like that to see if it
   10,11helps
Les  1,0what is an aurate
karen2  10,11I agree Allen I really do
Les  1,0mailer
karen2  10,11The aureate group mailer
ellen  4,0how abot "NOT ME!!!!"
karen2  10,11Jon says he knows of something easier and
   10,11better, Good idea Ellen
Brenda What is it?
karen2  10,11Or you can always use the good old stand by and
   10,11that is :Question?"
karen2  10,11The idea is to get them to open the ad
karen2  10,11And sometimes you need to experiment
wayner exactly
AllenRiley Karen, I suppose my question is can we automate the
   Aureate Group Mailer to change subjects while it is in sending
   operational mode?
karen2  10,11Jon would you share with us about the other
   10,11mailer, I don't think so Allen
JonA  6,0Here is one I just got.....  "I tried to reach you
JonA  6,0the other mailer is completely customizable
karen2  10,11Oh I like that Jon
AllenRiley Me too Jon
JonA  6,0you can use the lists directly from the DHSC VIP info
   6,0pages
JonA  6,0grab your downline and then mail to it...
JonA  6,0or for FFA Mailings
JonA  6,0it's pretty fast.....
ellen  4,0\
karen2  10,11Okay in what other ways is it customizable
karen2  10,11What is it?
JonA  6,0unlimited customization fields
karen2  10,11That sounds good
JonA  6,0unlike Aureate
AllenRiley THat sounds excellent
karen2  10,11True
JonA  6,0ID# would be ID#
JonA  6,0sponsor email would be sponsor email
karen2  10,11I like that
wayner I use express mail server
JonA  6,0if you get what I mean....
karen2  10,11Yes Jon I do, I am interested what mailer is it
JonA  6,0instead of city being ID# or whatever....
JonA  6,0just a sec...
AllenRiley Jon, that sounds extremely good
JonA  6,0grabbing url....
karen2  10,11Yes it does
JonA  6,0http://AutoSubmitPRO.com/pl/pl.cgi?wm
karen2  10,11Les you need some type of mailer if you are going
   10,11to really get this going so you might want to check this one out
   10,11since you do not have the aureate yet
JonA  6,0I've been using this one for 5 years now
karen2  10,11Okay I am going to check it out, Is it expensive?
JonA  6,0think it's about the same as Aureate
JonA  6,0bought it 5 years ago so...
karen2  10,11That sounds good does it have direct send
   10,11functions?
wayner If anyone needs a fully functional mailer I have 2 with
   unlock generators
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Les  1,0ya ok thank karen & jon
ellen  4,0check this out  gracelynngatrell.50megs.com
ellen  4,0not done yet
karen2  10,11What kind do you have Wayne?
Brenda Wayner, what does unlock generators mean?
karen2  10,11I thought that was my surprise Ellen
wayner Express Mail Server and
wayner Stealth Mass Mailer
karen2  10,11I have both of those, I am afraid of Stealth
   10,11because Doug had a major problem with his ISP over them
   10,11looping
JonA  6,0does EMS allow for personalization and
   6,0customization?
wayner Brenda, It means that you can register your own mailer
ellen  4,0it still is u will see finished
karen2  10,11I have tried the Express mail server but don't know
   10,11that it was any better
Brenda Thanks
karen2  10,11Okay Ellen hon
karen2  10,11Okay let's recap how do you get members, ONE
   10,11WORD ANSWER
wayner I also use EMS
wayner I found that Stealth was hard to use
JonA  6,0LISTS
karen2  10,11Nope
AllenRiley Stealth will also get you in trouble
wayner Jon I believe it does
JonA  6,0Mailings
Brenda perserverence
karen2  10,11One Word Answer How Do You Get Members
karen2  10,11Yes Jon, EMail
JonA  6,0:-)
karen2  10,11Email, Email,Email,Email
karen2  10,11repeat and duplicate Email, Email,
karen2  10,11Email,Email
karen2  10,11Am I getting through to anyone?
wayner Allen, explain
Brenda I think so!!!!
Guest161 gotcha
karen2  10,11Good Brenda I am glad
wayner Are you talking about masking your ID?
karen2  10,11That is the whole point, The more you email the
   10,11more members you get, Now how do you email safely
Brenda Use the safe list
AllenRiley Because of the fake headers in Stealth Mail, a lot of
   old internet anti-spammers get their dander up when they see it
   and send complaints.  That's one way
JonA  6,0either mailing to a FFA list that you purchased or using
   6,0the name and ID and URL of the site you extracted from
karen2  10,11Yes, use as many safe lists as you can find
   10,11Exactly
karen2  10,11Bingo Brenda gets the prize for tonight
karen2  10,11Ask me about your prize later okay Brenda?
Brenda Guess I am learning a few things.
karen2  10,11Yes you are
Brenda OK
wayner OK, gotcha
karen2  10,11So we are going to join as many safe lists as we
   10,11can Paid and free right?
Guest2 Thanks for the input I learned something tonight
Brenda Yes
karen2  10,11We are going to send them the ad that works the
   10,11best that I know of and that is my freesoftware ad
Guest161 10-4
karen2  10,11And we are going to make sure we write down
   10,11and keep up with which lists we are mailing to so we do not miss
   10,11not the smallest opportunity
Edward yes mom
karen2  10,11Hi Ed
karen2  10,11Nice to have you
Edward howdeeeeeeeeee
ellen  4,0hi ed
Edward thanks
wayner Hi ED
Edward hi all
karen2  10,11Now I have also found another way to advertise
   10,11for free, Do you want to tell them about it Ed?
Guest2 Hello Ed
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JonA  6,0I wanna hear!!!
JonA  6,0oooohhhhh
Edward youcan tell about it better than I
karen2  10,11Ed is the only one on our team to be doing it right
   10,11now besides me
JonA roar
karen2  10,11Okay well Allen kind of knows too
karen2  10,11I found a really neat site and I have not even went
   10,11past the first step yet
AllenRiley Hi Ed
Edward hi
karen2  10,11But the first step is 8 different sites like starblaze
   10,11and hits2u Do you all know what kinds of sites those are?
JonA  6,0yep
JonA  6,0I've got a nice list....
karen2  10,11How about everyone else?
AllenRiley Karen, I am using the ad and it is working.  I need to
   be sending more emails
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karen2  10,11Allen did you sign up for those 8 sites yet?
ellen  4,0ezines rght?
karen2  10,11Okay for anyone who does not know these
   10,11programs are programs that you put into your browser and for
   10,11every time you open your browser and view two of theirs you get
   10,11someone viewing one of yours
karen2  10,11The problem is how do you put 8 sites into your
   10,11browser
AllenRiley Karen, I haven't signed up yet.  I will though.
   Swamped..no time
JonA  6,0I've got a solution for 5 sites, but not 8....  I'm all ears
karen2  10,11I understand Allen, Guess what I have a simple
   10,11html program that lets you put it into a website any website
   10,11including your pointer page and it rotates between the 8 sites
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karen2  10,11So everytime you open your browser you are
   10,11going between 8 programs that are getting you hits for FREE
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JonA  6,0how about a program that you enter 5 URLs into and it
   6,0opens 5 small windows and refreshes them every 30-40
   6,0seconds??
karen2  10,11It is a very simple program but what I want to do is
   10,11let the team Captains and above sign up first and then let their
   10,11VIPs and leaders sign up under them because it will give all of
   10,11us better exposure
karen2  10,11That would be good too Jon
JonA  6,0yep
karen2  10,11This particular program goes much deeper than I
   10,11have mentioned I am just now getting past the first step of it
JonA  6,0gotcha
JonA  6,0listening....
Karen flush
Karen Bathroom break.
wayner Man that's DEEP
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AllenRiley ha ha
wayner LOL
karen2  10,11Oh Lord have mercy
AllenRiley Re-hi Les
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Guest161 I'm so glad you shared that with us
wayner mercy me
karen2  10,11That is what I get for having a husband next to me
Les the power went out
karen2  10,11hahahahahaaa
karen2  10,11Okay so are there any specific questions for
   10,11tonight?
AllenRiley Where do we get the html program?
AllenRiley Did you include that in the email you sent me?
karen2  10,11I will send it to you as soon as you have signed
   10,11up for the programs
karen2  10,11Nope
AllenRiley Got it
karen2  10,11Cool
JonA  6,0what 'bout me *K*?
karen2  10,11Les you will get it from Allen , Esperita you will get
   10,11it from Ed
karen2  10,11You will get it from me Jon:)
karen2  10,11Wayne you can get it from me or Lisa depending
   10,11on her time schedule
karen2  10,11she won't mind either way
karen2  10,11The point is this and I want you to know why I want
   10,11to do it this way
wayner Thanks Karen
karen2  10,11The deeper we get the lines the more hits we all
   10,11get, These are free programs and the deeper your levels go the
   10,11more hits everyone gets
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karen2  10,11So it is a very great way to get free advertising and
   10,11do it as a mass way to help the whole team
AllenRiley That makes lots of "networking" sense, Karen
ellen sorry got kicked out
Les  1,0allen are you going to call me
wayner Welcome back all
AllenRiley Sure, Les.  Did you send me your phone number?
Edward we forgive you ellen
Les  1,0Allen are you going to call me
ellen  4,0u sure ed?
AllenRiley Welcome back Ellen
karen2  10,11Yes Allen and the cool thing is that this whole
   10,11idea goes much deeper I have just not had the time to get further
   10,11into it thanks to the events of this past week
karen2  10,11So what we will do is do the first step first and
   10,11then add on to it
Les  1,0Yes is it in that mail I sent
AllenRiley Les, thanks.  I will call you when we finish here
karen2  10,11Esperita Ed can go ahead and send you the
   10,11URL's to sign up on
Les  1,0K great
karen2  10,11Ellen I will send you mine
Guest161 thanks karen
karen2  10,11And Allen you have mind for you and Les and I will
   10,11send mine to Jon
karen2  10,11Wayne you can get mine too
JonA  6,0:-)
JonA  6,0I think I might have been to this site.....
JonA  6,0we'll see  :-)
karen2  10,11You guys just email me so I will not forget, Jon I
   10,11will send you the whole site so you can go ahead and move
   10,11ahead
Guest161 lo ed,  will you please e-mail me the url?
karen2  10,11For anyone who needs my email address it is
   10,1112kddc@starband.net
Edward yes
karen2  10,11Edward let me know when Esperita is ready and I
   10,11will help you help her okay?
karen2  10,11Does anyone have anything they want to talk
   10,11about?
wayner Yes
karen2  10,11Yes?
wayner Just want to mention that we should get our pictures in
AllenRiley Go Wayner
karen2  10,11Yes we should because Wayne is getting tired of
   10,11being alone
AllenRiley I have to get mine taken I guess
JonA  6,0Pics?
Edward okay
wayner AMEN to that
karen2  10,11ellen has a scanner now, Yes we want your
   10,11picture for the VIP meeting site so we can see who we are talking
   10,11to
JonA  6,0me too *K*??
wayner Actually, Ellen and Gracy are there with me
karen2  10,11Please send them to me
JonA
JonA  6,0http://autosubmitpro.com/jon.jpg
ellen  4,0ok where do i send it?
karen2  10,11Yes you too Jon
AllenRiley There are a few places on the web where mine is but I
   don't remember the URLs
JonA  6,0can just link straight to mine *K*
karen2  10,11That is true Wayne
karen2  10,11Okay Jon email me with it
karen2  10,11Anything else before I pop quiz?
karen2  10,11Okay Jon I have it
karen2  10,11Okay Pop Quiz we are in School How do we get
   10,11members, One word ansswer
ellen  4,0big green eyes jon!
AllenRiley Email
wayner email
karen2  10,11Yeah Allen !!!!!
JonA
karen2  10,11Yeah Wayne!!!!!
Guest161 mail to your safe list
karen2  10,11You read my mind Esperita
AllenRiley Write good subject line copy!
AllenRiley So they will open the email
wayner something catchy
karen2  10,11Way to go, and the way to make sure you do that
   10,11the best is to keep them in a what? so you don't miss any and
   10,11Yes Allen that is the next thing
AllenRiley Send enuff email that it gets the averages on our side
karen2  10,11How do we make sure we are mailing to as many
   10,11people and lists as we can all the time How do we organize our
   10,11selves?
karen2  10,11Yes Allen that is right  And???
karen2  10,11Anyone?
JonA  6,0keep track of what you do on paper
AllenRiley Keep the emails in a separate database
JonA  6,0or in a text file on your PC
AllenRiley Use a tracker
karen2  10,11Yes Jon Way to go!!!!!
JonA  6,0that too
wayner notebook
karen2  10,11Yes Allen that too
karen2  10,11Yes wayne that is what I was looking for keep a
   10,11notebook
AllenRiley Date them, tag them, track them
karen2  10,11And look at it every day and write down each
   10,11mailing that you do, Exactly Allen
karen2  10,11All right I think you guys have learned something
   10,11tonight
AllenRiley Check averages at the end of each day and enter
   them onto a ledger line
karen2  10,11Yeah Allen I don't even do that I track them weekly
   10,11but that is a good idea
karen2  10,11So we are going to do what this week?
karen2  10,11Email Email Email Email Email Email Email
   10,11Email
wayner except for the last couple of days, I download the
   addresses from myebiz and send out an ad to the entire list
AllenRiley !!!!!!!!!!!!!EEEE MMMM AAAA IIII LLLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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karen2  10,11Way to go wayne you shouold see some results
   10,11Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wayner YEAH!!
karen2  10,11Yes Allen Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
wayner And a whole lot of autoresponder replies
karen2  10,11And we will see how many members everyone
   10,11gets, I want a count for next weeks meeting
karen2  10,11That will work too
AllenRiley ok.  Let's go for it!
karen2  10,11All right!!!!
Les  Right
karen2  10,11So next week lets see how many members each
   10,11of you gets okay
wayner Sounds like a plan
karen2  10,11Then I think I will devise a little contest after next
   10,11week
karen2  10,11So I can leverage it according to your abilities
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karen2  10,11Does anyone have any thing else they want to talk
   10,11about tonight, I think this has been a great meeting
Guest161 karen will you e-mail me a copy of your ads, and the
   names of some good mail list?
karen2  10,11Esperita all the free safe lists are on the vip
   10,11meeting site and yes if you will email me so I don't forget I will
   10,11send you the ad and some other sites
AllenRiley This has been a really great meeting.  Thanks, Karen
   and all
karen2  10,11If no one else has anything I would like to end
   10,11with a simple prayer tonight
Edward thanks karen
Les  1,0do we have a meeting every thursday at this time
karen2  10,11All of you are most welcome Yes Les every
   10,11Thursday same time same place
Les  1,0k thanks
Guest161 ok thanks-well back to work tis getting late-5:00am
   comes early. great meeting see ya'll next week
JonA nite
karen2  10,11Is it okay for me to adjourn us with a prayer? Okay
   10,11Esperita Good nite
ellen  4,0bye espereta
Les  1,0i'll try to make it next trurs
karen2  10,11Good Les we would love to have you
AllenRiley Les, we have a meeting every Thursday.  Hope you
   can make it
JonA will be on my messenger's if anyone needs me....
JonA nite
karen2  10,11Nite Jon
Guest161 yes prayer
wayner nite jon
AllenRiley Good night Jon
karen2  10,11Thanks Esperita
Karen Let us end with prayer.
wayner lets
karen2  10,11Father, Thank you for letting us gather here
   10,11tonight and fellowship with our friends and great business
   10,11associates
karen2  10,11Please keep all of those in so much pain in your
   10,11arms tonight and protect and comfort them and their families
karen2  10,11Help us to remember your love and the fact that
   10,11you always love us
karen2  10,11And keep all of us safe and Bless Our lives and
   10,11our business's for your sake
karen2  10,11Amen
wayner amen
ellen  4,0Amen
Guest161 amen
Edward AMEN
Karen In the Name of Jesus.
AllenRiley amen
karen2  10,11Amen
Les  1,0Amen
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karen2  10,11I love all of you, and I thank you for being a part of
   10,11our lives
AllenRiley Les, I will get your number from my email and call you
   in a few minutes
karen2  10,11Have a Great Week
wayner Karen, I have a copy of meeting if you need
ellen  4,0love u 2 mom!
AllenRiley nite everyone
Edward thank you mom
Karen Be blessed and prosperous ALL.
ellen  4,0nite!
Edward love you
karen2  10,11I have it Wayne thanks, I love you too Ellen, You
   10,11are welcome Ed, Love you too
ellen  4,0love u 2 ed, u know that
Karen bell
karen2  10,11Nite Allen
Edward yes sis
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