Session Start: Thu May 09 18:02:41 2002

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*** Topic is 'VIP Chat Room'
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wayner Hello Ed
EdComeaux hi
wayner Good that you culd make it tonight
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kdcan Hi Ed
wayner Got your email
kdcan What a pleasant surprise
kdcan Wow!!!
EdComeaux hi
kdcan What email?
wayner sorry
wayner disregrad
wayner disregard
kdcan okay????
kdcan Hi Ed
EdComeaux karen got my email...haha
kdcan Great to see you
kdcan Yes I got several emails from you Ed
kdcan Hope I answered them all
EdComeaux good to see ya'll
kdcan We will give it 5 minutes to see who else comes
EdComeaux soso
EdComeaux just joking
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wayner Hi Ron
EdComeaux hello ron
RonS hi wayne ,karen and edcomeaux
wayner Welcome Karen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wayner sorry, I was chatting with Faye Ann
wayner Good to see you!!
wayner brb
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FayeAnn I'm here
FayeAnn don't know how long though
FayeAnn gotta run when the hubby walks in
wayner Hi Faye Ann!!
wayner Glad you could join us
FayeAnn Hi Wayne... its been a long time.. lol
wayner yeah
wayner about a week
wayner or so
FayeAnn nahhhh, its been a month
wayner hmmmmm
wayner maybe
wayner you would know
wayner lol
FayeAnn am I not special anymore Wayne
wayner of course you are
wayner :-)
FayeAnn ahhhh, ya makin be blush
FayeAnn me blush
wayner hehehehe
FayeAnn geeezzeee I told you I can type
FayeAnn can't
kdcan Okay it has been 5 minutes, Our group is getting smaller I fear
wayner join the club
kdcan I first want to ask everyone if they have anything they would like to bring up tonight
kdcan Okay no takers
wayner :-)
kdcan Okay for one thing, Faye and Ron
kdcan and Wayne
kdcan The co-op
kdcan As far as I am concerned the rest of the leads are crap
kdcan I am being as honest as i can be
FayeAnn lol
kdcan Rita wrote me today
wayner oh yeah
kdcan And she said that even though she would look up the source and get with Mark from okay mail
kdcan She would no longer be the go-=between with any more issues involving these leads
kdcan I will be honest with you I told her my group wants their money back because in my opinion she is renigging on her original situation and promise to us
kdcan The leads however are ours
kdcan And we are entitled to them but I caution you to use them like COLD leads
kdcan Being very careful
wayner yes
kdcan I will send a letter to all those remaining on the co-op to tell them my feelings
FayeAnn definitely!!
kdcan Please do not get me wrong, I wrote Rita a Harsh letter, but I do not blame her except that she promised to back us up and now she is backing down
kdcan And I do blame her for that
wayner I agree
wayner a promise is a promise
kdcan I feel she should have stuck it out
FayeAnn Is she the one that found Okay Marketing?
kdcan She made the agreement with us and with okay mail and just because in my opinion she is worried about her own pay check she is backing off
kdcan Yes
kdcan Absolutely Faye
kdcan She arranged it
kdcan She talked to them
kdcan She made the deal
kdcan She made sure what they were doing was suppose to be within DHS policy
kdcan For her to come back on me at this point and tell me I could negotiate with Okay Mail is a Joke
kdcan And I told her that
kdcan I know she is under pressure but I am not taking that liability on
wayner I guess not
kdcan I am really not trying to be negative but I want you to be cautious with the remainder of the leads
kdcan I think they can be used in a general way by telling them what I found out to be the truth
wayner I have not had a good feeling with these last few bunches
FayeAnn You did a previous co-op with Okay back in December and those leads were all right weren't they?
kdcan And that is supposedly they signed up for this with lotto
kdcan Yes
kdcan  But that was before DHS did the new spam policy
FayeAnn Hmmmm... wonder what happened this time
kdcan DHS
FayeAnn ohhh
kdcan Basically
kdcan And I understand where they are coming from too
kdcan I really do
kdcan lBut I think we all got hung in the middle
kdcan And I think that part is wrong
kdcan However we do know these leads at least have some interest in the internet
wayner I think we did too
kdcan So we can treat them as such\
kdcan Telling them that they signed up under Group Lotto
wayner is that where they signed up?
kdcan And that we do not know if they still want membership and giving them a chance to opt out before we do anything else or just giving them a chance to join through our pointer pages and let that be the deal
kdcan And actually that is what I will probably recommend
kdcan Yes
kdcan Through the free Group Lotto
wayner I am doing that now
kdcan I just found that out
wayner ahhhh
wayner that may help to jog their memories
kdcan The problem is Wane
kdcan Wayne
FayeAnn I don't input anyone anymore... I just give the option.. I've been doing that for a couple of weeks
kdcan is that I got on the list from them
kdcan Good for you Faye
wayner yes
kdcan i got a letter from Jon
wayner that is better
kdcan I never sign up for anything with these places
FayeAnn I get a lot of REMOVE ME IMMEDIATELY
kdcan So I am very doubtful as to their practices
kdcan That is good\
kdcan I would rather them that than anything else
FayeAnn at least it saved me the trouble of having to delete them from the autoresponder ow
kdcan Back to a positive note
kdcan yes
wayner exactly
kdcan And I really want to say that I got caught up in the co-op thing too
kdcan So I can not say I did not
kdcan But I have always advocated mailings through responsible sites and lists
kdcan And I just know now that it is imperative to get everyone to go back to that
kdcan But I have thought that for a while
kdcan so does anyone have questions about the negative part?
kdcan Because I have some very positive things to follow
FayeAnn nope
wayner not really
wayner very clear
kdcan Okay
kdcan The new mailer is up
kdcan hehehehheehee
kdcan Wayne I told you
kdcan Bless Wayne's heart
wayner great!!!
kdcan He has been working so diligently on getting our follow up letters updated
kdcan And the new mailer is up and running hold on and I will get you the new URL
kdcan Just wondering if you have downloaded the new
kdcan DHSC Club Mail program yet.  I have it and it's really
kdcan "cool".. lots of great functions.  You can get it here
kdcan http://www.clubshop.com/vip/clubmail/  it's free
kdcan for VIPs.  
kdcan I am being told as you can see that it is great
wayner you have to download it?
kdcan I have not had a chance to look myself yet
kdcan No I just got this today
kdcan I have no idea Wayne
wayner hmmm
wayner I will check it out after
kdcan I don't know if you have to or not
kdcan I apologize
kdcan But I have not had the time to even check it out
kdcan But I have some other good things
wayner that's not a problem, you have been busy
kdcan Saturday we advertised some free ezines
kdcan And for those of you who were not here , you need to go to the transcripts and pick them up
kdcan They are free and good to advertise to,
wayner yes you have to download and install it
kdcan And I have you a bunch more tonight
kdcan Okay I did not know
kdcan I have a list of about 300 ezines you can advertise to for free
kdcan But you need to use a junk email address to sign up for these,
kdcan Many of them have a requirement that you join to receive their ezine and you get to post an ad as a gift
wayner that is awesome
kdcan I only have 50 or so for tonight  but I will have more in the future meetings
kdcan Please join with a junk email address okay?
wayner definately
FayeAnn right
kdcan Okay here are the lists and I am will put them in a groups of about 15 or so
kdcan mailto:profit-tips-subscribe@listbot.com
kdcan http://www.epromoteonline.com/newsletter/add.shtml
kdcan http://theimasite.com/
kdcan mailto:epower@www.com
kdcan http://www.cammnet.com/submit.html
kdcan mailto:BuruseontheWebzine-subscribe@topica.com
kdcan http://www.finitesite.com/freeadtips/
kdcan http://www.webmastergate.com/post.html
kdcan http://www.psgclassifieds.co.uk/ezine.htm
kdcan http://www.free-advertisement.com/
kdcan http://www.whcnews.com/
kdcan http://www.finitesite.com/freeadtips/
kdcan http://www.cashway.com/
kdcan http://www.egroups.com/group/moneyweb
kdcan http://www.geocities.com/paris/lights/6493/ezine.html
kdcan mailto:subscribe@internetmarketingsecretscenter.com
kdcan http://www.wwwpromote.com/advertise.shtml
kdcan mailto:freebies-and-webmas-subscribe@egroups.com
kdcan mailto:Dreamzine-subscribe@topica.com
kdcan mailto:freebizads-subscribe@listbot.com
kdcan mailto:editor@webwealthmentors.com
kdcan mailto:freebizads-subscribe@listbot.com
kdcan http://learneasy1.listbot.com/
kdcan http://www.money-matters.co.uk/
kdcan mailto:TheInformer-subscribe@egroups.com
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kdcan mailto:MegamulaBizAdEzine-subscribe@listbot.com
kdcan http://www.fastbizmall.com/
kdcan http://www.onlinemoney4u.com/newsletter.htm
kdcan http://creativepurrsuits.com/reststopnews/index.html
kdcan http://www.falcon110.freeserve.co.uk/index.htm
wayner Welcome David!
kdcan http://www.1west.net/
kdcan http://www.global-abundance.com/newsletter.htm
DavidHensley Hi everybody! Sorry I'm late.
kdcan http://www.money-matters.co.uk/
kdcan http://www.netincomesite.com/
kdcan http://koolpages.com/magic69/freeads.html
kdcan mailto:ma-enews-subscribe@egroups.com
kdcan mailto:bestbizopezine-subscribe@listbot.com
kdcan mailto:sub@clickmezzn.com
kdcan mailto:webworksathome-subscribe@listbot.com
kdcan mailto:advertcentral-subscribe@topica.com
kdcan mailto:gorillamarketing-subscribe@listbot.com
kdcan http://internet-home-employment.net/ezine.html
kdcan http://www.homebizafrica.com/comcart/example.htm
kdcan http://server34.hypermart.net/pbpromotions/
kdcan http://impressions4u.com/
kdcan http://www.createprosperity.com/newsletter2.htm
kdcan http://imarketingsource.netfirms.com/letter.html
kdcan http://ezinehits.com/Interniche.htm
kdcan Hi David, You have missed a lot
kdcan We are glad to see you
kdcan You will want to probably check the transcripts
kdcan Okay so there are 50 or so free ezines
wayner wow!
wayner Thanks karen
kdcan Now I have also found some E-books I thought you guys might like
kdcan You are welcome
kdcan http://www.webstars2000.net/aduni5/Marketer.exe
kdcan Web marketer secrets
kdcan http://www.webstars2000.net/aduni5/kiss.exe
kdcan Totally Free ad resources
kdcan http://www.webstars2000.com/files/164ways.exe
kdcan 5 unique ways to get free advertising
kdcan http://www.webstars2000.net/aduni5/successsecrets.exe
kdcan Success secrets  Goal Sheets, gain courage
kdcan http://www.webstars2000.net/aduni5/ingredients.exe
kdcan Marketers give away secrets
kdcan Those are downloads
kdcan And I researched them I am sure they probably try to get you to do their programs but they should have some good pointers in them
wayner yes they usually do
wayner lol
kdcan Yes
kdcan Okay now something important
kdcan And I need to get this to all the VIPs
kdcan But I have not had time to do so yet
kdcan Wayne discovered, and Ed, knows this already
kdcan That DHS is now sending all letters necessary when you build your line
kdcan lines
kdcan You only need to transfer them
kdcan You do not need to send any letters at all
FayeAnn no kidding?
wayner no kidding
kdcan Wayne do you happen to still have that URL
EdComeaux no kidding
kdcan Yes NO KIDDING
wayner yes
wayner sec
kdcan I would like for them to see those letters COOL
EdComeaux no kidding!!!   I mean
FayeAnn WOW
FayeAnn I like that
EdComeaux when you transfer a copy is cc'd to you
FayeAnn I haven't transferred for awhile because ran out of Free Members
FayeAnn : - (
wayner here it is
wayner http://www.clubshop.com/mailings/freembrspletters.html
kdcan Faye Ann you are out of free members?
kdcan I will give you some
kdcan How deep did you get into your lines?
FayeAnn Yep!
kdcan Did you send them letter encouraging them to upgrade?
FayeAnn Up to about 10... Yep!  Did it all
FayeAnn No Bites
kdcan Okay FayeAnn, it will be tomorrow night
wayner I gave you that letter didn't I faye Ann?
kdcan But I will send you some keep the lines going to 15 and then start new ones
FayeAnn Yep!  Sent the letter
kdcan And use the letter Wayne sent you
wayner me too
wayner no bites either, but I will resend it soon
kdcan Again I want to encourage all of you to start using the ezines and other advertising that is available to us
FayeAnn I was going to send it again this week
kdcan Good
kdcan we are at a time when Faith is important
kdcan And I want you guys to know that I do not put my faith in DHS
kdcan I put my faith in God
kdcan And I know HE will take care of me and ALL my needs
kdcan And YOURS
FayeAnn very true
kdcan So we have to do what we can in our lives and LET HIM do the rest
kdcan I can not figure any of it out beyond that
kdcan Except in the spirit I know God is working
kdcan and manytimes when he works it looks negative at the first
kdcan I think that is to fool the devil
kdcan Because the devil does not understand except the exterior and God understands it all
kdcan thus the sayins that it is always darkest right before the dawn
kdcan and every cloud has a silver lining
kdcan there are truths to some things
kdcan I do hope some of what has been presented tonight will be a help, I know that right now there are a lot of problems with promoting DHS but in the same token I am using the same methods I have used from the beginnning
wayner oh yes Karen
kdcan I just got caught up in the things like others did that promised more faster
kdcan And that is not always better
kdcan Like the co-ops
wayner multipliers
wayner not addition
kdcan The safe lists and opt-ins hve always been good
kdcan Yes
kdcan Wayne Exactly
wayner things that are easy to duplicate
kdcan And DHS has good methods at the e-business institute
wayner co-ops are not
kdcan It takes time but you build relationships
kdcan Exactly
kdcan Changes are often difficult at the begginning but they are often always good
kdcan We just have to get out of the box
wayner let's focus on things that are easy to duplicate
kdcan the paridym
kdcan Exactly
kdcan that is why I quit any VIP follow up letters
kdcan it was too much too soon
kdcan Just focus on the basic training
wayner I was thinking tonight after seeing a commercial
kdcan Yes/
wayner about working on one at a time
wayner just one at a time
kdcan What a concept
wayner whether it be a VIP
wayner or a free member
kdcan Actually that is what Dick has been trying to say
RonS one question karen?
wayner it made total sense
kdcan Get them to talk with you and work with you,
kdcan Yes Ron?
RonS we should change our pointer page back to original right?
kdcan ????
kdcan No the pointer pages should be the new ones
wayner the one that leads to the responder etc
kdcan Because anyone that signs up are lead to the responder
RonS it is setup for the opt in members now
kdcan Yes like Wayne says
kdcan Yes
kdcan And that is what it has tobe
wayner yes
kdcan Anyone from here on out has to opt in
wayner keep it the way it is now Ron
RonS but it leads to the wrong responder...I think
kdcan Yesa
kdcan Okay explain why you think so
RonS i have a free responder that was used for the coop and one for the free members i already have
kdcan Okay Ron did you set up one to go with your pointer pages?
RonS yes
kdcan From the training site?
kdcan Okay then that is the one you need to keep up and running
kdcan It is for anyone who clicks on your site today or tomorrow
RonS then I need to reset my pointer page
kdcan What is your pointer page set to?
kdcan I am really confused
RonS it is confuseing to me too...hahhah
wayner I have had people enter their info, which means they get the responder messages, but they are not entering their info into the DHS site
kdcan Your pointer page should be set to the 5 confirmation letters
kdcan Yes Wayne and those are probably duplicate members
kdcan I have had that happen too
RonS not the responder you set up karen..
kdcan Okay Ron, your poiner pages should point to the 5 letters set up on the training site
kdcan The only difference should be Waynes new dummy URL
kdcan That lets them see the software they can get
RonS and the other to new mwmbers already?
wayner Ron, contact me after on MSN and I will have a look at your pointer page
kdcan That needs to be added to those letters
kdcan No your other new members that are already members you should check out DHS's new system for them
kdcan Yes we need to take a look and make sure your pointer page is going the right place
RonS just found out about it
kdcan Oh I know me too
kdcan hehheeee
FayeAnn Hey folks.. I have to run.. very important meeting with my husband. lol
wayner Thanks Faye Ann!!!!
kdcan We understand FayeAnn
FayeAnn welcome
RonS well I can see your point ...i will look
kdcan Thanks for coming
FayeAnn thank you
kdcan And enjoy the ezines
wayner see you later :-)
FayeAnn ok... byebye
kdcan Thank YOu
FayeAnn welcome
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kdcan Yes Ron get with me or Ron and we will make sure your poiner page is correct
kdcan I mean me or Wane
kdcan Wayne
wayner hehehehe
kdcan I can not type tonight
kdcan hehheheheee
RonS the one from my pointer page encurges them to reply to the letter that dhs sends when they sign up
kdcan Yes
wayner yes
kdcan That is right
kdcan But you need to add the dummy URL
RonS and the other one trys to get them to upgrade
kdcan The one where they can view the software
kdcan Cool That is right
RonS ok
wayner I winder if I should add those letters to the follow up site Karen
kdcan The one DHS has will possibly take over for the one that trys to get them to upgrade
kdcan Maybe so Wayne
kdcan That is a good idea
wayner ok done
kdcan Any questions?
RonS nope
wayner lol
kdcan I love you guys,
RonS only one...whats for supper
kdcan Then I guess I am going to try to get some rest
wayner lol
kdcan hehehehehe
RonS hahahah
kdcan I have not eaten yet either
kdcan  and it is 10pm here
wayner ih my
wayner do eat
RonS 9 here
wayner 7
kdcan I pray good Weather
kdcan for all of us
kdcan and FOOD
wayner that would be nice
kdcan heheheheee
kdcan it is in my nose
kdcan waiting
kdcan heheheeheee
wayner hehe
kdcan God Bless you guys
wayner God Bless, and Love you too Karen
kdcan I will talk with you all soon
kdcan Thanks Wayne
RonS see ya karen and get some rest after what I put you thru
wayner you are a GREAT! leader
kdcan Ron You are wonderful
kdcan Thanks Wayne
kdcan  You all are wonderful team mates
RonS nite karen and wayne
kdcan and that is what makes me seem wonderful
kdcan Nite Ron
* wayner THANKS FOR COMING TONIGHT
kdcan YES
kdcan Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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kdcan Okay then I am going to eat the food that I am smelling,
kdcan Nite guys
wayner Nite Karen
kdcan Thanks for coming Ed
kdcan and David
wayner Say hi to Duane
kdcan Nite Wayne
kdcan He is here
wayner nite David
kdcan Just did not log in
wayner Nite Ed
kdcan so much going on
kdcan Bye guys
wayner later
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Session Close: Thu May 09 19:08:09 2002

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